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16
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Yes, we should give it up. No, we should not give it up.
Debate Score:22
Arguments:20
Total Votes:23
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 Yes, we should give it up. (13)
 
 No, we should not give it up. (6)

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Topic #3: Should we give up our individual privacy for the safety of the nation?

Yes, we should give it up.

Side Score: 16
VS.

No, we should not give it up.

Side Score: 6
2 points

We should give up privacy for the security of the nation, as it helps solve and prevent crimes, helps ensure your individual safety and the safety of a nation and its allies. For example, the PRISM surveillance system of the NSA has help stop 50 terror and crime threats not just in the USA but also in countries like Germany.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
2 points

“lives have been saved” because of the cautious execution of the surveillance systems. “We know of at least 50 threats that have been averted” not just in the United States, but in countries around the world, including Germany.”

-Quote From National Security Agency Director Gen. Keith Alexander.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
Eduardo(8) Disputed
1 point

Yes, but, how many more people were unlawfully arrested because of things like PRISM?

Side: No, we should not give it up.
Jingyuan(10) Disputed
1 point

NSA data collection is very effective and accurate system and is very much legal as explain by this independent board.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
2 points

Argument #2. 72% of Americans are in favor of surveillance in public areas and 56% of Americans don’t believe the government has gone too far in protecting the country.

Supporting argument: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/19/americans-feel-the-tensions-between-privacy-and-security-concerns/

and

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/09/privacy freedompollshowsame.html

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
Eduardo(8) Disputed
1 point

The same cannot be for immigrants. As long as you are not certified with the Department of Homeland Security, you are able to be searched unlawfully.

Side: No, we should not give it up.
1 point

Surveillance in public areas is very effective, 6 Crimes a day solved by cctv, this shows how mass surveillance has benefited society. For example, the infamou London Nail bomber was solved in part by a cctv footage. If it weren't for cctv cameras many crimes would take much longer or be impossible to solve, allowing the perpetrator to attach again or not be brought to justice.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
1 point

In conclusion, the safety of the nation trumps the privacy of a person, as it helps save lives, solve crimes, and is much better for the nation's people. Would you rather risk your safety or even your life for a loss of privacy.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
1 point

Opening Statement: Imagine if, randomly, in the middle of the night, a SWAT team burst into your house, without a warrant, and started "collecting evidence", and immediately arrested you. The Fourth Amendment prevents this from becoming a reality

Side: No, we should not give it up.
Jingyuan(10) Disputed
1 point

If you don't have anything to incriminate you than you will not be arrested.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
Eduardo(8) Disputed
1 point

If you had something to incriminate you, the police would have a warrant.

Side: No, we should not give it up.
Jingyuan(10) Disputed
1 point

Also, why would a police tactical team be after you unless you have committed or is suspected of committing a crime, a tactical operation involving swat would cost upwards of 1,040 USD per hour.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
Eduardo(8) Disputed
1 point

Recently, SWAT teams are usually assigned more relatively trivial things to investigate.

Side: No, we should not give it up.
1 point

The police would not just burst into your house without a solid reason to. They could but wouldn't it would just be a total waste of time. So if you were just a normal person doing nothing weird or suspicious you would be totally fine.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.
1 point

There is a common misconception that the 4th Amendment makes a police officers job harder. It does not. In fact, it cracks down on corruption in the police force to some degree, as they cannot just arrest whoever they want.

Side: No, we should not give it up.
AugustF(4) Disputed
1 point

We are not saying they can arrest whoever they want to. We are simply saying "if you don't have anything to hide, you have nothing to fear." So a police officer could not arrest whoever they wanted to without proof or evidence that the person has broken the law.

Side: Yes, we should give it up.